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Susan G. Komen Wastes Money on Consulting Firm To Assess Damage To Reputation

Seeded on Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:47 PM EST
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After Susan G. Komen for the Cure's controversial decision several weeks ago to cut funding to Planned Parenthood, and the subsequent reversal of that decision, the cancer charity has hired a consulting firm that specializes in messaging strategy to essentially ask its donors: Do we still owe you an apology?

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Rodney-889389

What idiot is running this organization, they won't find a cancer cure in a survey, but that's what they are spending money on...amazingly stupid.

  • 12 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:48 PM EST
Carol-99

I'd like to know how much they are paying the firm for their services. If Komen really wants to restore its reputation, then they should put their efforts towards treating and researching the cure for cancer instead of this messaging strategy. They're not even capable of making a sincere apology.

Perhaps most interestingly, one section of the Komen survey asks participants whether they feel that the organization still owes them an apology, and then lists a series of potential apologies to test whether or not they are effective. The options range from deeply apologetic to defensive and deflective of blame. "We made mistakes, but political elements on the right and left have sought to use our missteps to advance their own political agenda," one potential apology reads.

I'd like to recommend, free of charge, a potential apology to them: We screwed up. Now we want to go back to fighting cancer.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:51 PM EST
Rodney-889389

They won't last 5 more years...

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:58 PM EST
Agent 57

it appears this foundation let farrightwing idiots get involved and now they are just @!$%#ed up.... don't do that.. it's a lesson... don't let these morons on the far right touch you...

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:56 PM EST
disgusted independant

Komen has ceased to be a charity. It is a big business with an agenda and political aspirations. I will not support them any more. Other charities whose leaders don't make a six figure salary, or sue other charities over the words "race" or "cure" in them, or hire a PR firm to repair their damaged image from their political moves will get my money from now on.

I still want a cure for cancer found, I just think others can do a better job with my money.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:24 PM EST
Silvaria

I suspect they will never quite recover from this, which is just as well. As disgusted said, this is no longer a charity. Donations that would have gone to them will now (hopefully) go to organizations who actually have the best interests of women in mind.

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:51 PM EST
hard2port

You really @!$%#ed up bigtime and another apology is pointless. That'll be $100K, please. Thank you.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:35 PM EST
Z1P2

they won't find a cancer cure in a survey

It doesn't appear that they are looking for one... they appear to just be another political super-PAC with more devious ways of collecting donations.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:10 PM EST
Rodney-889389

they appear to just be another political super-PAC with more devious ways of collecting donations.

Yes, seems the business of this charity is business not cures.

Seems to me they sould be hiring scientists and doctors not pollsters and lobbyists.

  • 5 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:14 PM EST
tristen350

Pretty much agree with everyone here. In the real world if a person screws up, they work hard to prove they are what they say they are. Honestly, if Komen meant anything at all towards their "appology" they would knuckle down, spend money on doctors and scientists and be searching high and low for people who really are in need fincially and offer aid....

..but NO, they hire a hyped up campaign manager. Basically. It boggles the mind that they can't see how stupid that is.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:40 AM EST
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euterpe-1641499

It's called Acute Schizophrenia Disease.

  • 6 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:11 PM EST
Plantsmantx

...former Democratic pollsters Mark Penn and Doug Schoen

Ah, those whores, huh?

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:06 PM EST
Carol-99

Mark Penn also attempted to improve the reputation of the tobacco industry. It seems odd that Komen would hire someone who had previously promoted a cancer causing product.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mark_Penn

A little digging reveals that, for well over two decades, both Penn and his opinion polling company have advised the tobacco industry on how to counter the campaigns of the tobacco control movement. Based on internal tobacco industry documents, it is clear that Penn and his colleagues have little personal sympathy for those promoting policies that put public health ahead of the interests of the tobacco industry.

  • 10 votes
#3.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:16 PM EST
Z1P2

It seems odd that Komen would hire someone who had previously promoted a cancer causing product.

You mean like the Heartland Institute which what's her name, the former vp at Komen gets her talking points from even though they were originally created as a propaganda firm by the tobacco industry to confuse the public about the dangers of smoking?

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:12 PM EST
Carol-99

Well, since you put it that way Z1P2, I guess it's just par for the course.

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:13 PM EST
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Physicist-retired

Perhaps most interestingly, one section of the Komen survey asks participants whether they feel that the organization still owes them an apology, and then lists a series of potential apologies to test whether or not they are effective.

The options range from deeply apologetic to defensive and deflective of blame.

"We made mistakes, but political elements on the right and left have sought to use our missteps to advance their own political agenda," one potential apology reads.

PSB wraps up the survey by listing a diverse cast of politicians and celebrities and asking the reader to rate which ones would be the most credible as Komen's new spokesperson. The list includes Sheryl Crow, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Sandra Day O'Connor, Ellen Degeneres, Melissa Etheridge, Lance Armstrong, and Rudy Giuliani.

Speechless. My money goes directly to PP now. To the best of my knowledge, they don't hire PR firms.

  • 12 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:19 PM EST
mf-3735877

My money goes directly to PP now

Ditto

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:30 PM EST
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3sheets2thewind

The damage to their reputation is that they are only in it for the money and the cat is out of the bag.

There are a lot of breast cancer charities that don't pay their CEO a 6 figure salary or spend a lot of their donated money on advertising.

Cutting their funding for stem cell research has not gotten enough media attention.

They are not in it for the cure, early detection or for the prevention of breast cancer it is that simple.

  • 8 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:32 PM EST
Sharon J-1312993

IMO the SGK brand is dead. They lost the trust of the women who supported them. I believe the reason they hired that women in the first place was because the believed like her. She was not quiet about how she felt so why would they hire her? What they all failed to see was Breast Cancer is not political. Now I will never send them another dime (and yes I did support them before).

  • 7 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:56 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

So people donated money for cancer research and they're spending it on a consulting firm for so-called "damage control"?

Wonder which one of the board members the CEO of the firm is tied to?

  • 8 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:11 PM EST
Better Careful

Having gone wrong, they cannot help but to go further wrong in an attempt to correct for going wrong. Funny how that works.

I suppose they think their problem is how to go wrong and get away with it. Their leaders are clueless about any of this, powerless over their urges and how those urges are expressed. I think this is called Karma.

  • 8 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:41 PM EST
Jerry-1903677

I will no longer support Komen. It screwed this up really bad. And to get everyone mad at me, it should've never given money to Planned Parenthood. PP does very little in fighting breast cancer. It does not provide mammograms, treatment, etc. All it does in its "breast cancer prevention" is to have someone feel up the breasts of women and if some lump is found (which, by that time, the disease has already progressed to a serious stage), it tells the woman to go to a real doctor for further tests. That's it. And for that, PP says it needs over a half-million dollars a year to have some pseudo-medical hack feel up women's breasts. Who thought it would cost that much? And when PP, which is worth hundreds-of-billions of dollars a year (more than Komen has), it goes into a PR attack and gets all its friends and allies to join in, and Komen caves.

Nope, not another cent from me. No more of its pink ribbons, no more joining its marches. There are real anti-breast cancer charities out there that do real work to save women's lives (and some men's, too, because men can also get breast cancer and most die from it). If Komen wants to give money to PP so PP can continue to sell abortions, rather than fight breast cancer, let it.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:16 PM EST
MYOB-1251250

Yep, I'm sure you know all about it.

  • 5 votes
#9.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:40 PM EST
lib50

whoops - accidentally voted up #9.

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:55 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

They should change the name to "Susan G HOmonger" for consulting firms...

..they'll never get another dime from me!

  • 2 votes
#9.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:58 PM EST
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RNDiane

apparently they are more worried about their image rather than women's health. They don't get my money.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:47 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

Well, I can tell you that consulting firms are EXPENSIVE! But some of those questions - who would you believe and list people like celebrities, Neil Patrick Harris? Sheryl Crow? Tom Daschle?? WTF?? I think much was revealed in the manner in which the questions were phrased.

All in all it tells me that Komen is still hurting financially from the backlash and want to regain their megapinkwash status!

  • 4 votes
Reply#11 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:29 AM EST
RNDiane

The only thing they can do to repair their image is to replace the people at the top and get a new board of directors. Period. And they did not have to pay a consulting fee to find that out.

  • 5 votes
Reply#12 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:05 AM EST
Rodney-889389

agreed.

Here's a person that is serving as a US Ambassador AND drawing half a million dollars in salary from a CHARITY???

Half a million dollars...that blows me away.

So in other words, not a nickle goes to finding a cure UNTIL they peel off the first $500,000 and pay Nancy Brinker....WOW, amazing.

  • 4 votes
#12.1 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:26 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

I'd be surprised if all that much goes to finding a cure, anyway, Rodney. Komen decided not to fund stem cell research. Another political judgement call...

And most everything else goes to "education," which to me means, "PINKWASHING."

  • 5 votes
#12.2 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:35 PM EST
Rodney-889389

And most everything else goes to "education," which to me means, "PINKWASHING."

true

...and that's a way to make sure their friends get a cut of the pie, bring in your Madison Ave. friends and pay them to "pinkwash"

This charity has become nothing more that a cash cow for it's executives and their pals, IMO.

  • 4 votes
#12.3 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:44 PM EST
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